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Nearly 100% of modern military men aside from revolutionary/rebel forces are not in it for ideological reasons.

The Ukraine and Russia war for example is poor or forced people killing each other… because rich people have a land dispute?

It's basically like if I had an argument with someone over the last slice of pizza, and since we are both rich, we paid other guys to kill each other to decide which of us gets the pizza.

I honestly think it's this stupid. If you're Taliban you're fighting off imperial colonization, okay fine that makes sense.

If you're a Ukrainian/Russian you are the guys that two rich people paid to kill each other over which rich guy gets the last slice of pizza.

>>662
i meant in the context of US reintroducing conscription
it was a bait thread to make you go on a tirade anyway and i wanted to post the song because it's catchy

>If you're Taliban you're fighting off imperial colonization, okay fine that makes sense.
uhhh i'm pretty sure the ukranians are doing exactly that

>>663
>uhhh i'm pretty sure the ukranians are doing exactly that

No, they are the guys killing each other to decide what rich guy will get the last slice of pizza.

Pizza = Ukraine
Rich guy 1 = USA/capitalists
Rich guy 2 = Russia/capitalists

Putin is right that Ukraine is a fake gay country.

Mongols -> Cossacks -> Austria/Ottoman/Russia -> Soviet Union -> "Ukraine"

This is the actual history of that region

"Ukraine" was invented after the collapse of the USSR in the early 90s. "Ukraine" didn't exist at all until 1917 communist revolution where it was just a region of the USSR.

The collapse of the USSR itself was after decades of US/CIA sabotage, the rapid "shock therapy" privatization (read: theft) was disastrous for most people https://youtu.be/IrNQeYYvabg

>>665
you're just regurgitating russian propaganda talking points
ukraine has always been a distinctive historical entity and just because they were ruled by foreign polities throughout history doesn't mean that the people themselves magically disappeared
i also think you also fail to understand that the concept of a national identity as we know it today really come into place during the 19th, early 20th century, and loyalties before that were personal (i.e. to a sovereign)
anyway, take for example latvia and estonia, which after being ruled by various empires only started to exist as nominally independent countries in the 20th century after the collapse of the russian empire, and were then forcibly reabsorbed by the ussr to finally achieve independence in the 90s, are they fake countries too and should they just roll over to russia because there are russian minorities living there?

>"Ukraine" didn't exist at all until 1917 communist revolution where it was just a region of the USSR.
>"Ukraine" was invented after the collapse of the USSR in the early 90s.

again, russian propaganda talking points that are factually incorrect
after the revolution the Ukrainian People's Republic was a distinct independent polity which was anti-bolshevik and was only absorbed into the USSR proper in 1920
also, during the german invasion in ww2 ukrainian nationalists collaborated with the germans and fought against the ussr because they wanted independence, but i guess that doesn't count either and they were retroactively created by le evil american capitalists in the 90s to weaken the glorious soviet union

im with whatmin on this one but ultimately i support all mutual slavnigger destruction russians, ukrainians, balkans, poolacks you name it what's the difference

>>674
are you the kiwi