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 No.32566

Wharton my old PC parts are worth so much even more than I paid so I'm selling them. What pc should I build? What's the best cpu/motherboard?

 No.32569

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i9-10850k with Gigabyte Z490 Gaming AX atx
Zalman CNPS20X cooler
2x8 GB Crucial Ballistix 3600mhz
Intel 665p 1TB nvme ssd
Gigabyte GP-P850GM fully modular psu

GPU market is fucking dead, no stock for those that worth it, either 3000 series nvidia or 6000 series amd
Cases are fucking gay in current year, craigslist beige box with airflow mods (drill fucking holes in it and put a bunch of fans in it)
t. not whatmin but this is what I would do

 No.32570

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>>32569
PH-TC14PE

I have this CPU cooler brand new that I bought six years ago and never installed due to schizo depression. Looking on eBay its really cheap now but I'm sure I paid 80 back in the day

Was thinking of just replacing the motherboard CPU ram and video card

Wharton my DDR3 used 🐏sells for more than brand new ddr4 lol

I have a fractal r5;and a great seasonic psu no reason to change that

 No.32571

What do you need a new computer for? I hope you are not going to play video games on it that would be so embarrassing.

 No.32584

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Based on realistic in-stock parts and reasonable prices:

- Ryzen 3800X (or cheaper third-gen Ryzen)
- Any X570 motherboard
- 3200MHz or better RAM (prefer Samsung B-die or whatever the new equivalent is)
- PCI-e 4.0 NVMe drive
- Any GPU you can get, AMD heavily preferred if you use Linux but not so much Windows, but AMD cards in general are way more affordable and in-stock right now.

 No.32585

>>32584
this literally looks like my crush from the back like im wondering if it's her

 No.32586

>>32585
give up

 No.32598

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>>32584
Your choices suck. Ryzen 3k is the best with 3600 MHz mems
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ryzen-ram-scaling-effect-in-games,1.html
First gen PCIe 4.0 SSDs aren't that much better in day-to-day use (tech deals has a video on that)
10th gen top tier intel can feed a current top tier gpu through PCIe 3.0 better than ryzen 3k through pcie 4 because the ipc is ass (gamers nexus did a vid on it for the Ampére launch)
X570 boards suck, almost all of them use active cooling, not to mention if you don't overclock, even A series are good, and B550 overclocks better than X570 (Buildzoid X570 and AM4 vids)
Also the motherboard I recommend is all intel NICs, so Linux compatibility is a piece of cake

 No.32599

just get the new macbook air m1 you nerd
all you're gonna do is browse imageboards anyway

 No.32600

>>32598
>Ryzen 3k is the best with 3600 MHz mems
I said "or better".

>First gen PCIe 4.0 SSDs aren't that much better in day-to-day use (tech deals has a video on that)

Except they are much faster than PCI-e 3.0 NVMe drives, in some cases more than twice as fast as PCI-e 3.0 NVMe drives. Whether someone notices in "real life" would depend on what they're doing.

>10th gen top tier intel can feed a current top tier gpu through PCIe 3.0 better than ryzen 3k through pcie 4 because the ipc is ass (gamers nexus did a vid on it for the Ampére launch)

It's also a huge waste of money to be buying top newest gen Intel CPUs and $1000+ out of stock Nvidia GPUs.

>X570 boards suck, almost all of them use active cooling, not to mention if you don't overclock, even A series are good, and B550 overclocks better than X570 (Buildzoid X570 and AM4 vids)

Except they don't suck, I'm not autistic about the chipset having a fan, they are the only boards that support PCI-e 4.0, and most of them have good IOMMU groups for GPU passthrough.

>Also the motherboard I recommend is all intel NICs, so Linux compatibility is a piece of cake

It's not 2009 and you can run Linux on any motherboard including X570 boards.

You remind me of being 16 on /g/ sorry.

 No.32601

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>>32600
I rest my case, you are extremely uninformed

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 No.32608

>>32598
So what CPU should I get

 No.32612

>>32608
i9-10850k

 No.32613

>>32608
Ryzen 3600, 3600X, 3700X, 3800X

Pick one.

 No.32615

>>32613
fanboy idiot

 No.32617

Just checked prices and pretty much all the Ryzens are either out of stock or selling for more than they should.

Still, I see 3800X at $340 and 10850K at $430

So, about $90 more for mildly better single-core performance than a 3800X, instead of getting an X570 board with PCI-e 4.0 that will probably support Ryzens made 4 generations from now, and the CPU comes with a good CPU heatsink free so you also don't need to buy that.

If you're rich do whatever you want, still not recommending Intel. They also try to lock GPU passthrough capability to their enterprise socket motherboards and CPUs while AMD doesn't.

 No.32620

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>>32617
amazon gave me a price 339 dollaridoos for the 3800x, and 399 for the i9-10850k.
In case you are not familiar with the chip itself, the 10850k is the 10900k rebranded and sold for a lower price. This means 10 cores (instead of the 8 in the 3800) that can clock to 5.2 GHz stock turbo, given thermals and power. You are getting the top tier IPC that can be only beaten by the currently largely unavailable Ryzen 5000, which won't get a successor for a long time from now anyway, and AMD went full intel on the pricing and bumped it high.
Cooling and the added cooler from the ryzen is literally a non-issue for our household schizo since he has a large aircooler in case you googled his part number
If case you are hellbent on PCIe 4.0 support, the coming rocket lake will be compatible with Z490 motherboards and many if not most of them were already engineered with PCIe 4.0 in mind
But the top tier rocket lake sku will only have 8 cores unlike the current ones since they are gunning for IPC, so with the 10850k you get the best productivity score as well as probably the best investment in future since for example cyberpunk2077 is already behaving badly on less than 8 cores (5600x being the only exception) and this will only get worse over time, so more cores are better if you want to keep using your computer for a lot of time
Memory. The endtimes for DDR4 are already here, companies are already announcing DDR5 in the serverspace, so you can wipe your ass with your X570 when there will be a generational RAM change anyway, and the 5000 series uses the memory controller of the 3000 series, so you are locked to 3600 MHz anyway
Fun fact: the 5600X costs the same in my country as the i9-10850k
pic related is how the PCIe 4.0 equipped gigabyte boards look like
GPU passthrough is a use case I didn't look into, so you might be right there. Of course if that is a killer feature, you are right.

 No.32623

>>32617
So is GPU passthrough definitely not possible on the Intel? I kinds wanna install Linux but use windows for games and stuff but idk if I'm actually gonna take the time to

 No.32631

>>32623
It really depends on the game, right? Obviously not everything will be accessible sans gpu passthrough, but you can play a lot of games if you're flexible and willing to seek out things based on new criteria, such as what works with wine and proton, which isn't difficult to use at all. Assuming there isn't a native build on gog/steam, you can look up what works with wine on their site, so you should probably do that with the games you plan to play to help you make your decision.

 No.32652

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What you should do is get yourself a high end CPU that's never going to see 15% of its full potential which will become obsolete in 2 years anyway. You shouldn't skimp on your RAM either, browsing the Internet can be very demanding these days. Pick RAM with higher frequency - more is better. Throw in whatever graphics card you want it's a waste of money anyway and you'll never use it. Get two of them, really. Likewise, you'll never be able to fully appreciate your graphics card(s) unless you get a decent 240Hz IPS monitor.

Other imbeciles who replied to this thread might confuse you by using big words and tech terms like clock speeds and gigaflops that they don't fully understand whether you should take their advice or not is up to you. What you should keep in mind, though, is that for an average consumer to upgrade their computer every 3 to 4 years (or sooner) is not only unnecessary but also very harmful to the industry as a whole. However, even the cheapest jewntel will still outperform its amd alternative. That's how it is, that's how it's always been.

 No.32653

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>>32652
I thought the new ryzens are good though. And I guess you're mocking me about the CPU but isn't the ram thing actually true for the Internet Firefox takes up everything

I have a new unopened 4930k and a new motherboard that goes for double what I paid for on eBay. Those two alone are like a thousand dollars or more I can sell but I paid 600 for both. I also have 32 gb ddr3 ram selling for higher than DDR4,and my current pc 4790k and good motherboard and a gtx 970. Selling all these I think ii can build a better pc without spending new money

 No.32654

Also I have a. 144hz 1440p monitor that can't be used to its potential with my current pc

 No.32656

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>>32653
Suit yourself. Even the cheapest, latest i3 will probably be more than enough for you. Especially if you plan on running linux.

 No.32657

>>32656
Everything ran slow on my overclocked q6600

 No.32709

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Shitmin is this true

 No.32710

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What about this. I can't believe amd is so expensive now

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 No.32727

>>32726
Holy shit why does incel min want Me to get that

 No.32728

>>32727
1) A ryzen 3600 is not supposed to cost $230. They were $180-$190 at one point.

2) That benchmark must only be single-thread. They have about the same single-thread strength, but the R5 3600 is about double the strength of that i3 in multi-core workloads.

 No.32730

>>32728
>That benchmark must only be single-thread.
There goes the fanboy cope talk. Bear in mind that you are comparing the cheapest, bottom of the barrel processor to a >$200 AMD from 18 months ago and their newer line CPUs are around $300 now. It took AMD a decade to catch up to intel do you think they even care? They know perfectly well their current line of chips is trash however they still manage to compete with the supposed alternative. It's 2021 and you still don't even need multithreading if you're a consumer. If single core performance is all you need you can't go wrong with a i3/i5 since they're so much cheaper now.

 No.32731

>>32730
>There goes the fanboy cope talk.
Really can't stand this extreme projection and rude unwarranted replies. You are the fanboy.

I have done nothing but stated facts comparing those two CPUs and telling you why one costs $80 and the other costs $190 (normally) with no intention of saying one is inherently bad. A $80 4c8t chip with that kind of single-core performance makes a lot of sense for some people.

They're two different brackets of CPUs. I'm not going to say Honda cars are bad because Ferrari exists.

>It's 2021 and you still don't even need multithreading if you're a consumer.

Idk how you can even say shit like this and act smug.

Everything is multi-threaded now. Games are multi threaded. If by "consumer" you mean "I only browse facebook" then you wouldn't be talking about picking out a CPU.

 No.32733

Let me try to put this in perspective.

An i3-10320 has about the same single core performance as top-line 10th gen Intel CPUs, including an i9-10980XE [1], a $1000 CPU.

So why does it cost $830 more?

This is how stupid your logic is.

[1] https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu_benchmark-cinebench_r20_single_core-9

 No.32734

>>32731
You're just talking out of your ass now. What is "everything"? You don't need multithreading to browse the internet. You don't need multithreading to watch cartoons. You don't need multithreading to make a gif. You don't need multithreading to edit an image. You only need multithreading if you do serious CPU intensive actual work or if you're a developer, that will never change. Don't even get me started on streamers/"content" producers.

>games

Get a PS5. Or a phone…

 No.32743

>>32730
>>32734
>>32652
you are fucking stupid, please stop

 No.32794

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Look Morty, I turned myself into an intelfag, I'm compute riick!!


>>32709
>>32710
FUD by fanboys. 140W+ TDP processors are thing in the server world since like the last 10+ years.
Yes, AMD has an advantage in power consumption and PCIe lanes in the server world, but it's exactly that, the server world has its own rules

t. 10850k advisor

 No.32798

>>32794
So I mean 340 for the Wharton chip vs 400 for the jewtel ten core is it worth sixty buckerino

 No.32800

>>32798
the 10850k is 18% more expensive, but has 125% of the number of cores and has a higher single core performance.
I would go for it

 No.32801

but wait for whatmin opinion



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