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I actually watched a lot of the second season because my family was when I came over. It stringed me along for quite a while, even though it was kind of stupid, because it was at least entertaining. And then the season finished and I realized it was pretty much the Western equivalent of a shonen anime: high-premise, shitty writing with no concern for thematic meaning or artistic expression mass produced and shoveled to the lowest common denominator. Seriously, though, the writing is asinine.

I get why people like it, but there are so many shows that this is only slightly better than. It's amazing what kind of shlock people will waste their lives on just because it's relevant.

It reminds me of this episode of The Andy Griffith Show. There's a gag where the kid uses some four-syllable word and Andy is too haughty to admit he doesn't know what the kid is saying, so he tries to talk down the kid into vocabular that he can comprehend. But I'm pretty sure the kid just said something like "disconcerting" and otherwise spoke normally. Basically, the producers of that show believed that the audience for it was too illiterate and dumb to use vernacular greater than that, so it was written that way to make the joke understandable to the audience without making them feel like they were the object of the joke. It's just amazing how patronizing mainstream media has always been, and how dumb the audience has to be to not see it as such.

>>24879
The quote is literally me to what bunnies

>>24879
I thought I would enjoy it considering I liked blood drive and that had a quirky premise but to be honest I didnt like the first few episodes and stopped watching

>>25107
To be fair. I don't actually think it's badly written. It's impressive how multiple character arcs converge together and how efficiently they're characterized. What's different from this show and other West Coast shows like The Boys or Watchmen is that, they might have the trashy hallmarks you'd expect, anemic symbolism and boring tropes, but the latter two have themes which reflect the world we live in. US foriegn policy, terrorism, racial tensions. There's a reason to be invested.

Whereas, Umbrella Academy is cartoonish. It has time travel. The JFK assasination is one of its settings. Imagine how interesting that could be in our political context. Yet, they do nothing with it. It has interesting depictions of characters who don't represent anything, don't really give the audience a reason to be concerned with them or their conflicts. That's the issue with American media in general: no relevance to reality. We're so inculcated by fundamentalists and censorship to treat art like a parade of ideals and fantasies, lest we make someone uncomfortable.

>>25142
I disagree completely, people need a place to go to have fantasy stories, you'll only breed animosity by attacking peoples views around the clock

I understand what you mean. I think it would be better for me to say that depictions of the world need to be self-aware, because there's no such thing as fantasy devoid of real-world context. For example, Mondrian's art in itself may not have any explicit allusions or forms to contemporary issues and values, but they ultimately reflect modern values, which, in turn, is a product of their time.

In fantasy, you still have stuff like war and class struggles which can be superficially related to their real-life counterparts; but, you can also have metaphysical themes like love and justice which are universally applicable, although still a product of the author's cultural values. Ultimately, even the most frivolous fantasy has humanity, depicts relationships between characters. We can draw parallels in those relationships. In Umbrella Academy, I think the most redeeming thing about both the show and the book is the latent truama the characters have from their heyday as children. Claude's especially is a good example. It's just that both mediums oftentimes forgets the fact that this conflict drives the story, making characterisations that are oftentimes irrelevant or contradictory to that central theme, making the whole thing show kind of schizoid if you choose to interpret it in terms of that. But to interpret the show in any other way just isn't as insightful. The values which redeem any shitty Marvel movie is equally as fruitless and irrelevant as Mondran's value of Universal (modernist) forms, because it doesn't pertain to important themes like death and love.

>>25166
I'm like Claude and you tell me to kill myself fuck off

>>25167
Understandable. Have a nice day.