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No.14400
>>14389It is impressive they've stayed alive this lobg in commubist regime even the soviet union fell.
I don't quite know how Russia rebuilt its ecconomey afyer it fell apart.
North Korea's probably going to channge soe of its policies i our life time though. They lost their Japanese foot wareand shoe agreement with Japanand it was a huge loss for them.
No.14410
>>14400North Korea is slowly going to westernise and get along with the world, very slowly but it will happen as unfortunately they need to in order to survive.
Russia's economy is terrible right now, it is said that nine months is how long they will be able to last before completely collapsing at the rate they are going now and Ukraine is not helping the situation, the war is costing them around ten million a day so we are most lily going to see a grand offensive very soon, they have been building up for one for a while now.
No.14421
I was just looking up North Korean videos a few days ago.
>>14400North Korea isn't communist. Despite the common belief that communist societies have oppressive governments,
communist societies don't have governments. They also have no such thing as money.
North Korea is it's own special little form of a socialist dictatorship.
>>14416https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05W0l_B0TTwI like this video.
No.14428
>>14425There's no rule that a society has to have a government.
A communist society is self-governing. If you could imagine a Native American village hundreds of years ago, and how "law" would have been enforced, that's basically what is supposed to happen. If you do something wrong, the community itself decides your punishment. Their might be some leading male figures in the community, but no government.
No.14431
>>14430Well I will change the course then, you cannot have a society with no government, the government is what protects the nation, builds the infrastructure and just generally manages the place, a nation with no head would just fall apart until the military, another nation or even just a band of thugs restored order.
You also need money, money is an advanced form of the bartering system.
No.14435
>>14431>you cannot have a society with no governmentYou can. Throughout much of human existence societies were communist and had no government.
>the government is what protects the nation, builds the infrastructure and just generally manages the placeA community itself is capable of this.
>a nation with no head would just fall apart until the military, another nation or even just a band of thugs restored order.That's not the fault of the community that other nations would violently conquer them. I'm going to use pre-colonial Native Americans as an example of a communist society again, you're calling Europeans coming to North America and conquering the Native Americans "restoring order".
>You also need money, money is an advanced form of the bartering system.You don't need money. In a society where everyone is helping eachother for the survival and common good of the community, you don't need money.
The disorder and chaos you're probably imagining is because you're imaging a modern capitalist society turning communist all the sudden. At one point every human society on Earth was communist. The social structure of small tribal/village communities kept everything in check. When you have anything resembling a modern capitalist society, it allows huge populations filled with all kinds of greed, self-centeredness, and general wickedness. You have a government, laws, law enforcement, and prison, to keep this in check. If you suddenly take that away, of course there will be chaos.
No.14436
>>14432The Zapatista Army of National Liberation is not a nation, not very powerful and in a country that has it's hands full dealing with real threats.
>>14434It appears necessary because it is. As I said, without one you would be taken over anyway. Also, even if one pretends this would not happen, the nation would break off into small groups leading a very simple hunter gatherer type life, they would have no technology or anything they could not make themselves, infastructure would not be maintaned and so become useless, there would be no health care or anything like that, there would be no manufacturing, it would just be like a caveman society. You may say 'ohh but infrastructure will be maintained by the people' you would be wrong. No one would have the incentive, training, time or resources to do it. You may say they will have incentive to do it because the community will pay for it but someone needs to organise this and in a 'society' with no head or authority making them do it they just won't. There would be no training for them because again no one would want or be able to do it while having to support them self. No resources would be available because no one would be producing any as again no one would have the incentive or time to and you could not get any from over seas becuase there is no authority to pay for it, there are no roads to bring it along and there are no drivers to drive it. There are just so many issues like this that it would take forever to point them out to you.
No.14437
>>14435These societies without governments were just primitive societies with primitive governments that you do not think of as governments.
I just said before, a community is not capable of this without an authority supporting and organising them.
It is the fault of the community not being able to protect itself, the native americans still had a form of goverment and authority just a primitive one because they were a primitive people, if they had a proper one they would have been able to both defend themselves and produce technology and such.
You always need money, if someone wants say milk or something them he needs to buy or trade for it, if he has to trade for it then he has to hope that he has something they want, this is not an issue with money.
No.14438
>>14436>but someone needs to organise this and in a 'society' with no head or authority making them do it they just won'tAnd that's where you're wrong. People aren't stupid robots who need to be told what to do by self-perceived superiors. What special characteristics do leaders have that normal people don't? They're just like us and most of the time they're outright incompetent and corrupt or worse sociopaths.
Unlike those parasites the workers are the ones who actually build things and yet they have little to no say in how things should be built and what the priorities should be. They're perfectly capable of organizing on their own to run things instead of leaving all the decisions to the elites.
No.14439
>>14436Almost all of those issues you're imagining is because you're imagining a capitalist society suddenly turning communist.
Those things as you see them today were created through and for the pursuit of money, not by the community for the common good of the community. I'm not going to tell you that technology would be as advanced if hypothetically all societies remained communist up until today, it wouldn't be. It certainly wouldn't be "caveman" level technology though. Perhaps technology not advancing to the point it has today would be a favor to humans anyway.
>>14437>You always need money, if someone wants say milk or something them he needs to buy or trade for it, if he has to trade for it then he has to hope that he has something they want, this is not an issue with money.Are you really having such a hard time imagining life outside a capitalist society? Imagine being born into a community where the entire community owns the cows and the milk. No one needs to pay for the milk, you just do your part to help the common good of the community, and they help you.
No.14441
>>14438As I said, they need to be told or have some kind of incentive in order to do it in the first place. There needs to be a chain of command, some one needs to delegate responsibilities.
People generally do what is best for them or there family, not what is best for everyone particularly if they did not have to and doing so negatively affects them.
No.14444
>>14439Sorry but you are an idiot, you really need to start thinking about these things, you expect a pile of rocks to turn itself into a home by itself. Society is incredibly complicated and something needs to manage it, yes it does not do it correctly all the time and there are flaws but we have roads, we live in peace and the world moves on.
I really am getting sick of this, I fell as if I am talking to a stubborn and ignorant child who refuses to see even the most basic of sense so I am going to stop this, I have better things to be doing than dealing with idiots.
No.14461
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Can't keep track of all the trips with my same name. Ipm crashing the party here for awhile Trev//whatmin/
No.14462
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Did you know North Korea kidnapped a South Korean director and forced him to make a kaiju movie? True story of Kim Jun Il.
North Korean 80's Kaiju Propoganda Japanese Laser Disc Film Release coming through.
In all honesty, does anyone know if North Korea made money on this movie by exporting it to forgien movie theaters and home video copy royalties?
No.14464
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ｷﾀ━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━!!
No.14486
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I downloaded it.
I don't think I'm gonna watch it though…
No.14487
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Someone post the "music for your soul" one.
No.14488
kill yourself sean
>>14389kill yourself you retarded aussie. Go join the FFL already.
No.14574
>>14512Didn't enjoy
>>14416>north koreans>happyI feel sad today hur dur